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KC
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Posted - 12/08/2013 :  10:59:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have this 3 year old 47" Vizio HD TV here not being used because a new 65" is in the living room and I hate to see that thing not used.

I am using a least a decade old 21" and 15" tube monitors for my desktop and I need bigger, or start wearing glasses ;-}

I'll try it with laptop today but the bideo for Blu Ray was astonding.
C/net rates it 4 stars.
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/vizio-e470vl/4852-6482_7-34136136.html

They break the stats down better than Vizio does but here are facts.

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Brand : Vizio
Model: E470VL

Screen Size : 47.0 in.
Display Type : LCD

Aspect Ratio : 16:9
Resolution : 1920x1080
Vertical Frequency : 120 Hz
Pixel Pitch : 0.5415 mm
Response Time : 5 ms

Number of Colors : 1.06 Billion Colors
Contrast Ratio : 100000:1
Display Capability : 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p


Brightness : 500 cd/m#65533;
Viewing Angle : 178#65533;

Analog Format : NTSC, ATSC, QAM

Dimensions (WxHxD) : 44.7 in. x 28.4 in. x 3.7 in.
(113.54 cm x 72.14 cm x 9.4 cm)
Weight : 39.7 lbs. (18.01 kg)

HDMI Interface : 1 x HDMI Interface
Composite Audio : 1 x Composite Audio
Component Video : 1 x Component Video
Component Audio : 1 x Component Audio

PC / VGA : 1 x PC / VGA
PC / VGA Audio : 1 x PC / VGA Audio

Cable / Antenna : 1 x Cable / Antenna

Output Mode : SRS TruSurround HD Sound
Output Power : 10W
Number Speakers : 2

Power Supply : 100 ~ 240 V / 50 ~ 60 Hz
Maximum Power : 134W
Approvals : CSA, CSA-US, FCC Class B, Energy Star 4.1 ATSC Spec A/65, EIA/CEA-766-A
Parts : 1 Year Warranty
Labor : 1 Year Warranty

Standby Power : 0.4W

Features : Smooth Motion
Zero-Bright Pixel Defect Guarantee
Parental Lock : V-Chip
Backlight Type : CCFL
Digital Audio (Optical) : 1 x Digital Audio (Optical)
Picture in Picture : PIP, POP
Comb Filter : 3D
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I can mount it on the wall in front of my desk which gives me a typical 4'-4.5' viewing distance from screen.

Way too close for watching a full screen movie but for just having multiple smaller windows open in 1920x1080 format on a 47" screen should make each small window pretty easy to read if it is sharp contrast don't ya think?

I will still have a secondary monitor for my e-mail and other little things and I can roll my desk chair back another 4' or sit in a chair as far away as 20' from the screen if I want for a movie or other full screen content but I think it would really help me day to day.

The rub is, when I proposed it to my wife today she had a tizzy fit, she doesn't want me 'wearing it out' or not having a TV in the guest room for her sisters 2 week stay this month, and no TV in there in 4 months when our son moves back in with us to that room.

The way I figure it is a paid for resource not being utilized today and who know what will be available months from now.

I'll let it slide for now but do think that monitor would be worth the fight?




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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  2:34:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe tell her you can always put it back in the room for them. Plus her TV might even last longer if it's used than if it just sits.






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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 12/16/2013 :  11:53:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I'll try it with laptop today


How did that work out KC? I would like to hear your opinion before I buy a new display because the TV's seem like a good option too.





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Woody
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Posted - 12/17/2013 :  9:20:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've read that one problem with some TV's as a monitor is input lag while gaming.

Reality is for those that cant handle video games.
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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 12/18/2013 :  10:34:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I remember that too.

But I was just reading something about selecting the right LCD displays for a PC that made me all iffy.

One part compared the LCD technology's IN, VA, e-IPS, IPS, and TV monitors.

It described IPS as the best and the most expensive. And the TV monitors as the least expensive and the fastest. But with the lowest color quality.




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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 12/21/2013 :  12:56:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whoops. I forgot that my TV card provides encode/transcode hardware for doing the video too. Oh well.





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KC
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Posted - 12/21/2013 :  3:05:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't tried the TV on my desk yet.
It's 3'8" wide and 2'6" tall and my desk area looks like this.



I did hook the TV up to my wife's laptop in the guest room in this pic to see how it looks and it's not bad depending how you tweak windowed loaded content like the browser or icons.



For example the desktop icons are huge and many (not my desktop) but by using Ctrl Mouse Wheel SCroll the browser window in the pasted pic is still my web page full screen, bigger than it is full screen on my 21" monitor @1024, and I still have useable desktop area.


This is a pretty close size of fit paint shop job from those 2 pics of how the TV would fit on my desk.



I am confident I'll like that TV as the PC's secondary monitor and use the 21" as the main off to the side for all the system stuff and I don't care how big the main screen is, I have 2 nice video outputs and I'm going to use them ;-}

But then there is...
Where the heck am I going to put all the stuff on the shelf?
And last but not least, it's her TV and she don't want me to do this!





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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 12/22/2013 :  11:46:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks KC. Sounds like that last part saved the shelf too.

Using the TV to replace my PC's display and TV card will not work for me either. That TV card has a big chunk of the hardware display cards require to fully support off board video end to end so I need that.

The 27" display was also to big and a bad idea.
lol if bigger really means better than it means I need a bigger house to so thats out...




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Woody
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Posted - 12/22/2013 :  8:26:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I run dual monitors, they both run at 1900x1200 resolution. One is 28 inches, the other is 24 inches. The smaller one actually has a TV tuner but I dont use it, instead I have a satellite tuner box plugged into one of its HDMI ports so I can watch stuff if I want to while working.

The larger one is my main monitor and I love all the space.

Reality is for those that cant handle video games.
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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 12/23/2013 :  7:35:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Woody, how close are your eyes to the 28" display?

I was thinking a viewing distance of 4' would be just about right for a display that size. (and 3'is to close) But I'm just guessing so hearing your opinion would be great.

Thanks
Dan




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Woody
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Posted - 12/23/2013 :  8:58:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My best guess is 3.5 to 4 feet, I dont really have anything handy to measure it exact.

Reality is for those that cant handle video games.
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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 12/25/2013 :  7:42:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the help.




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KC
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Posted - 08/19/2014 :  09:50:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I need to go bigger on my desktop, dual video card inputs to a big 21x36" screen that you could treat as 2 monitors would be nice, and thoughts?

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KC
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Posted - 08/27/2014 :  10:50:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I tried the big HD TV for a a monitor and it was no better up close than these old CRT's AND the rest of my system sucks as well so...

I'm going all out with a $1,500 budget.

I'm starting with the display and then working backwards, selecting components that will power the display with Win 8.1.

I am currently torn between two ~$600 display options:

One of these:

Samsung U28D590D 28" 4KUHD Monitor, 3840x2160 Resolution,1msRT,1000:1 Contrast Ratio, Display Port, 2xHDMI
http://www.frys.com/product/8044854?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG





Or two of these...

ASUS PA248Q 24" Class Widescreen IPS LED Monitor - 1920 x 1200, 16:10, 80000000:1, 6ms, HDMI, VGA, DVI-D, Energy Star.
http://www.frys.com/product/7301874?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG



Two 24" monitors would give me more visual area than the 28" but man, the stats on what the 28" can support sound pretty incredible (a Billion colors) might be a better long term investment and much easier on my eyes.

Your thoughts?

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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 08/28/2014 :  11:44:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That Samsung stand looks like a huge problem to me. (just like my Samsung S27C390H was) There is just no way a 2 pound stand is not going to be all wobbly all the time. And with the vesa mounts missing I had to make something and clamp mine down.

But that Asus sure would looks sweet. (especially the quality)
Heck it's even calibrated and guaranteed not to have a bad pixel.






Edited by - WheelSmoke on 08/31/2014 10:19:44 PM
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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 08/31/2014 :  10:12:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Your thoughts?
KC, Here is what I come up with for the viewing distances (screen to eyes) I use daily with my 27" display mounted to that arm and a tape measure just for a reference.

Web pages in a window about half as wide as the display. = 36" (30" is to close)
Full screen web pages = 48" (36" is to close)
Full screen video = 48-60" (36" is ok)
Max distance with hardware on my 30" deep desk. = way to close.

Oh ya, I am also farsighted if that matters. LoL...






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KC
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Posted - 09/01/2014 :  08:24:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WheelSmoke

quote:
Your thoughts?
KC, Here is what I come up with for the viewing distances (screen to eyes) I use daily with my 27" display mounted to that arm and a tape measure just for a reference.

Web pages in a window about half as wide as the display. = 36" (30" is to close)
Full screen web pages = 48" (36" is to close)
Full screen video = 48-60" (36" is ok)
Max distance with hardware on my 30" deep desk. = way to close.

Oh ya, I am also farsighted if that matters. LoL...

I have 50" from my eyes to the back of my desk.
With my big CRT's at 1025x768 my eyes are 30" away.

My goal is to go higher rez and keeping it closer, but I tons of room to move them back and change rez.

Now what to do about a new PC...
It's Labor day and I'm in the mood for some Fry's Electronic's shopping spree, and thoughts on PC hardware?
I'm gonna run win 8.1 (reluctantly) but XP just won't it anymore.


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KC
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Posted - 09/01/2014 :  1:47:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Signing off with the old PC.

I bought this PC
http://www.frys.com/product/8171905

Basic Specifications:

Genuine Windows 8.1
AMD FX-8300

North Bridge: AMD 970, South Bridge: AMD SB950

AMD R7 240 2GB DDR3 (video card)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8585127&SRCCODE=WEBGOOKWL&cm_mmc_o=mH4CjC7BBTkwCjCs81CjCE&gclid=CPiittK6wMACFQGVfgodKTwA_w

And a pair of these 24" 1920x1200 flat displays.
http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/PA248Q/

12GB at 1600MHz 4 x DIMM
2TB SATA hard drive (7200rpmRPM)
24x DVD-RW
10/100/1000Mbps LAN
Sonic Master High Definition 8-channel Audio
1 x 16-in-1 Card Reader

Notes:
I am clearing everything out and will need to reload some new things like the newest Office and set everything back up to be useable, and still want to install my other systems Data drive but for $1,500 I think I did pretty good for not having to spend a week building and loading something just as good.

See ya when I'm back up ;-}



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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 09/01/2014 :  8:48:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Awsome. And I bet going to displayport will be nice.

Plus all the display mounting choices you get with vesa mounts is just to cool...





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KC
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Posted - 09/02/2014 :  07:45:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Up and running with 1 monitor via DVI and Internet so far.
The clarity of the screen is unbelievable @ 1920x1200, and I can even read it!
A little Ctrl Mouse-wheel for text size and I'm golden.

Going to hook up the other monitor and get Office loaded next.

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KC
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Posted - 09/04/2014 :  4:31:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've outdid myself, my desk is now an absolute joy to sit at ;-}

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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 09/06/2014 :  3:17:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does the pitcure-in-picture feature in your display specs mean basically the same thing as it does for a TV? (supports dual inputs or whatever)

I'm glad you did not go with the 28" with no vesa mounts. Because I'm sure you would have found it was way to wobbly sitting on a office desk.
Mine sure was. But clamping it to the old CRT arm sure fixed that. Now it's rock solid and just floats around so effortlessly that I almost never leave either display in the same place for long. That positioning thing is definitely what I like best about going to the LCD displays at my place.





Edited by - WheelSmoke on 09/06/2014 3:18:37 PM
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Posted - 09/06/2014 :  3:44:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Reminds me...

Any chance you (or anyone) can tell me what a support tech would call the text problem shown in that Chostry box below?

That text also has strange colors that do not show in captured photos...

Thanks

blown up to 300%



original size 100%


-- edit
duh. use the camera.

The camera made the problem look much worse then it really is but it shows the colors as well.

cropped from a 4608x3456 photo @ 3'





Edited by - WheelSmoke on 09/06/2014 4:15:20 PM
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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 11/07/2014 :  1:19:19 PM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I've used a 55inch UHD telly as my main monitor at home for about a year now.
And I really do love it!
If I sit far away ctrl to 300% does the trick.
If I need more space for multiple stuff I simply move closer.
Running stuff like games and even movies in 4k does have its challenges though.
So I just ordered a new upgrade kit:

ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0, Socket-AM3+
ATX, 990FX+SB950, DDR3, 4xG2-PCIe-x16, CFX/SLI, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.0, UEFI

AMD FX-8320 Black Edition
Socket-AM3+, 3.5GHz, 8-Core, 16MB Cache, 125W, 32nm, Boxed w/fan

Crucial DDR3 BallistiX Sport 16GB KIT
16GB kit (8GBx2), Sport,1600MHz, 1.5V, CL9-9-9-24

If it still lags I'll order another 16gigs o ram.

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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 11/09/2014 :  12:52:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
and even movies in 4k does have its challenges though.
So I just ordered a new upgrade kit:


Hi Balt, Can you tell more about the movie/video challenges?

I noticed the upgrade appears to not be about video related hardware other than maybe the PCIe bus so I'm curious.

Thanks

----------------------

4k is way more than my ISP though. LoL





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KC
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Posted - 11/10/2014 :  07:10:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bummer they don't make a Ghostery for Firfox 33.0.3

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