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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/01/2017 :  05:17:12 AM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Machine Name:Pipe Inspection 2017    ID:502 
Status: Member System
Make or Model: Home Brewed
Last Edit: 4/1/2017
OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit OEM
Motherboard: MSI X99A GAMING PRO CARBON
Processor: Intel Core i7-6850K
CPU Socket: Socket-2011-3
Primary Video: GeForce GTX 1070    PCI Express? PCI-Express 3.0
Memory: 64 GB
Boot Drive: Samsung 960 PRO 512GB M.2 PCIe SSD

PC Wizard Mark:0    3DMark:0

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It`s been a while since I posted a build, and time flies by so fast! A LOT have changed, this time it is over to Intel. No Optical Drive. Hard drive plugs straight into a slot on the motherboard. BIOS not so Basic anymore. Video is connected with Display Port which is another first for me. O and 4k PC monitor is a first :) Lots of snack to learn about in other words [:)]

[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/01/2017 :  05:24:31 AM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Let The Build begin!
Messed up the picture in these late hours

Here's one with CPU and Cooler, RAM and HDD mounted.


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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/01/2017 :  05:49:34 AM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Intel Core i7-6850K Prosessor
Socket-2011-3, 6-Core 3.6GHz, 15MB, 140W, 14nm, Broadwell-E

Noctua NH-U9S CPU Cooler

64 Gb Corsair DDR4 RAM

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X99A-GAMING-PRO-CARBON.html#hero-overview
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-x99a-gaming-pro-carbon-motherboard-review,1.html


OS Drive Samsung 960 PRO NVMe SSD
These HDD's does not have Master Boot Record and so they need a driver to start.
Also beware the !"#%&/()=?`\! tiny screw
http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools.html



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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/02/2017 :  03:44:07 AM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The Case

Even though it's small and have glass panels it is my new favourite.


http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/crystal-series-460x-rgb-compact-atx-mid-tower-case

http://www.corsair.com/~/media/corsair/download-files/manuals/cases/crystal_series_460x_install_guide.pdf

It's time to start stuffing the intestines.


The Power Supply Unit
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/rmx-series-rm1000x-1000-watt-80-plus-gold-certified-fully-modular-psu-eu

It's got a 140mm fan under, and the case have a corresponding dust filter.
In this build there are only one drive so I can toss the 2.5" drive bays and claim land for the modular PSU cables.

Small just turned BIG




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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/02/2017 :  04:38:37 AM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Motherboard and PSU installed.
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X99A-GAMING-PRO-CARBON.html#down-manual

Again: Truckloads of Space!
No Optical Drive and no local storage drives.
There does not even seems to be a space for optical drives any more!
The Windows OS came on a DVD, so I'll just have to borrow the
fancy BluRay Burner from my computer.
It will be the second time it gets used
FlashBack to the days of Floppy Drives anyone?


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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/02/2017 :  06:47:41 AM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Some things Never Change

I still hate those besky little connectors




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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/02/2017 :  10:35:36 AM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
De Ja Vu a la Floppy
Dismantled my pc to get the Plextor...
No optical drive!
Checked the server, mmm nope, old Phillips something.
Found a computer with a DVD/RW drive and ran back.
Ummm...Nope.
The P-ATA connectors are also gone.
Good Riddance.
Trub to the rescue with a S-Ata drive!
Thanks Trub!

Possibly the last DVD




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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/02/2017 :  11:12:42 AM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Now that hopefully all the cables are connected it's time for the
Monster Video Card



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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/02/2017 :  12:44:52 PM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
First Boot
Is also the first RGB Bling Standard.
This Bling is adjustable in BIOS and can easily be turned useful
by setting it to base LED color on CPU temp.
It will also awesomize thr glass plates

Lot's of RED lights everywhere but no picture.
I wonder if that is due to the Display Port cable?


Hunting for HDMI cable..

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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/03/2017 :  12:28:57 PM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
After a crazy day at work it's time to derail a little.

Came over an article about the MSI BIOS and the latest hard drives.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-gigabyte-bios-intel-optane,34048.html

The little SSD HDD NVMe PCB Chip thingy in this build is a M.2

You can see it selected inthe below BIOS pic



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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 04/03/2017 :  8:26:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
FlashBack to the days of Floppy Drives anyone?

Hehe, I still use the 3.5" diskettes for Quicken data, and income tax records.




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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/05/2017 :  11:20:51 AM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Tech is moving faster than its'self

It seems like there might not be Native 4k yet,
because neither DP of HDMI got me a picture.

Then I found a DVI-D cable and another monitor
Now it lights up like a christmas tree.
Another trip down Memory Lane to when we had to keep
a CRT around to install computers.

Back to learning the new UEFI BIOS


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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/08/2017 :  01:37:11 AM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I'm struggling a bit here.
The BOIS can see Trubs optical drive, but no sign of the M.2 SSD
A closer look takes you straight to the most complicated part of this new technology.

Trub's drive is listed on the M.2 / SATA Port 5
This means I hit Bulls Eye and plugged the optical
drive into the only SATA port that's shared with anything

But there's more.
The M.2 sitting here is supposed to use four PCIe
lanes for supermassive bandwith and not a "slow" SATA port...

Another vital change to the M.2 PCIe is the fact
that the drive does not have a Master Boot Record like the SATA drives have.


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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/08/2017 :  02:08:20 AM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Moved the optical drive anyway.
OK hit F7 and got the EZ mode going.
Put the optical drive as Boot Option 1
Put UEFI HDD as Boot Option 2
Still no sign of the M.2 and still no boot.
Noticed in the boot order there's a UEFI Windows DVD...?
I simply ordered the cheapest one...

Back to hunting for the M.2


As the Samsung 960 PRO M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD HDD
is as new as they come updating the BIOS might be a Wize thing to do.

Instructions on how to do this
https://youtu.be/LRyFMf0D9Lc

Never seen files from work in a BIOS before

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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 04/08/2017 :  8:02:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You would think the mother board's owner manual would at least say how to install and configure something new like that. [:/]




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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/09/2017 :  10:02:51 PM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Looks like the solution might be here https://www.ramcity.com.au/blog/m.2-ngff-ssd-compatibility-list/189


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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/11/2017 :  12:19:44 AM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
ASUS X99-A motherboard. Can be booted with the AHCI SM951 or XP941 in the onboard M.2 socket (confirmed 10/4/15 in this comment with thanks to Robert Sandru). Also note that you need to set your CSM settings to 'UEFI Driver first' in the PCIe-EX storage section before you'll be able to successfully install Windows on either the XP941 or SM951. To get here, boot the system, press F2 to enter the BIOS, press F7 for advanced configuration, then navigate to the 'Boot' submenu, then down to CSM (Compatibility Support Module) and press Enter. Then, navigate to 'Boot from PCI-E / PCI Expansion Devices' and select 'UEFI Driver First' from the menu. (default selection is 'Legacy Only'). Then navigate to the Exit menu, select 'Save Changes and Reset'. **EXTRA NOTE** - this only works with X99-A BIOS 1402. I personally successfully installed both Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 with X99-A BIOS 1402 (rel. Mar 27th, 2015) with the XP941/SM951 in the M.2 socket or the Lycom DT-120 adapter. Using version 1702 (rel. Apr 15th, 2015), I was constantly thwarted with the message 'windows cannot be installed to this drive' and could not get past it.

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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 04/11/2017 :  12:46:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Looks like the solution might be here https://www.ramcity.com.au/blog/m.2-ngff-ssd-compatibility-list/189


Wow, Some of those M.2 SSD compatibility design defects are totally unacceptable in my book.




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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 04/21/2017 :  12:20:15 PM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yea it's a nightmare.
I've enlisted help from a friend who's used to dealing with SSD's and hopefully it's sorted.

If he cant make it work I guess Biting the Grass and go for S-ATA
SSD is the way to go.

It'll still beat the crap out of any other pc listed here
http://vales.com/elite/MYPC.asp

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WheelSmoke
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quote:

It'll still beat the crap out of any other pc listed here


That's what I was thinking.





Edited by - WheelSmoke on 04/28/2017 10:41:09 AM
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WheelSmoke
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Posted - 05/22/2017 :  5:45:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It will be interesting to see how much the air filters dirt effects air flow.

Bladed fans are real sensitive that way.




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[RCG]Balthazar
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Posted - 06/27/2017 :  05:03:07 AM  Show Profile  Click to see [RCG]Balthazar's MSN Messenger address  Send [RCG]Balthazar a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Well, the solution was a new SSD.
S-ATA based Samsung 850PRO.

It will do the trick and then some ten times over for this build.
Not so for my 3D-PC though, gotta make a topic for that project too.

As for the dust filters, all I know is that so far it is the coolest
most silent computer I ever built!

Next is to install Office and whatever else the client wants.

Finally return Trub's optical drive and mount the glass panels.

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