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Posted - 09/29/2006 :  07:45:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
(Taken and edited from Tom's Hardware Guide.
The Best Gaming Video Cards for the Money: October 2006
-Don Woligroski September 26, 2006 08:12

Keep a few simple guidelines in mind when reading this list:

This list is for gamers who want to get the most for their money. If you don't play games but surf the Internet and edit video, the cards in this list are probably too expensive. On the other hand, if you're a professional full-time 3D designer, you should look at Quadros and FireGLs, not gaming cards:

Prices change and deals come and go on a daily basis. We can't offer up-to-the-minute pricing information, but what we can do is list some solid cards that you probably won't regret buying - if you can find them at the price ranges we suggest;

The list is based on some of the best U.S. prices from online retailers. In other countries, or in retail stores, your mileage is most certainly going to vary;

These are new card prices. No used or open box cards are in the list; they might be a good deal but it's out of the scope of what we're trying to do.

Best AGP Card For Under $100

Radeon X700

Codename: RV410, .1 micron technology
Eight pipelines
128 bit memory bus
400 MHz core, 300 MHz DDR (600 MHz effective) Memory

The X700 might not have the newest technology, but it probably has the best frame rates of any new sub-$100 AGP card. With a higher clock speed than the 6600, it's a bit faster at most things, but it doesn't really dominate.

Geforce 6600
Codename: NV43, .1 micron technology
eight pipelines
128 bit memory bus
300 MHz core, 275 MHz DDR (550 MHz effective) Memory

The eight-pipeline 6600 architecture has proven itself in the Geforce 6600 GT. Deprived of the Gut's higher memory speeds, this is still probably the most powerful AGP/PCI-e card for under $100 online, and can be over clocked to good effect. Be wary of the 6600LE, which has 200 MHz DDR (400MHz effective) memory that cripples the card.

Both of these cards are good choices; just don't expect any miracles out of them. Most new games should be playable at 1024x768, although with the tougher titles, you might have to lower some settings.

Best AGP Card For ~$125: 3 Way Tie

Radeon X1600

Codename: R530, 90 nm technology
12 Pixel shaders, five Vertex shaders, four Texture units, four Raster operations processors
128 bit memory bus (256 bit ring bus)
500 MHz core, 400 MHz DDR (800 MHz effective) Memory

The X1600 is an odd duck. It sports 12 advanced pixel shaders but it's crippled with a four-pipeline architecture. It's often referred to as a "12-pipeline" card, but this is not entirely true, as it's 12 pixel processors work in banks of three and output four pixels per clock - the hallmark of a four-pipeline architecture.

Regardless, the result is a card that offers relatively high performance in some games, and relatively low performance in other games. On average, the X1600 PRO performs on par with the 6600 GT, and offers slightly higher technology (adaptive AA) as well as advanced DVD/video playback/encoding features. But if you're interested in this card, do a little benchmark research and make sure it works well on the games you play.

Geforce 6600 GT
Codename: NV43, 10 micron technology
8 pipelines
128 bit memory bus
500 MHz core, 500 MHz DDR (1000 MHz effective) Memory

Although a bit dated, the 6600 GT is still one of the better AGP choices. This solid and consistently performing card has been dutifully holding its own in the AGP segment for well over a year now. It is known to be a good overclocker as well.

Radeon X800 GTO 128MB
Codename: R420, 13 micron technology
12 Pixel shaders, six Vertex shaders, 12 Texture units, 12 Raster operations processors
256 bit memory bus
400 MHz core, 350 MHz DDR (700 MHz Effective) Memory

The X800GTO will beat the X1600 PRO and 6600 GT more often than not. It's probably the most powerful stock card in the sub-$150 AGP category. Some people will complain about their lack of SM 3.0 capability, but in this category it really doesn't matter that much because none of these cards is really powerful

Best AGP Card For ~$130

Geforce 7600 GS

Codename: G73, 90 nm technology
12 Pixel shaders, Five Vertex shaders, 12 Texture units, eight Raster operations processors
128 bit memory bus
400 MHz core, 400 MHz DDR (800 MHz Effective) Memory

With identical features compared to its faster 7600 GT brethren, the 7600 GS lacks only the core and memory clock speeds - however, the GTs clock speeds are so much higher, that the GS pales in comparison. Nevertheless, the 7600 GS is a great AGP card as it trumps the X1600 and 6600 GT for just a little more money, and is a good overclocker's choice due to the under clocked 7600 core - although it's unlikely its memory will ever clock anywhere near the 700 MHz (1400 MHz DDR) of the 7600 GT. Its only real competition for the money is the X800 GTO, which is a bit cheaper and probably a bit more powerful, but doesn't offer newer SM 3.0 technology or the ability to perform OpenEXR HDR.

Radeon X1650 PRO
Codename: R530, 90 nm technology
12 Pixel Shaders, five Vertex Shaders, four Texture Units, four Raster Operations Processors
128 bit memory bus (256 bit ring bus)
600 MHz core, 700 MHz DDR (1400 MHz effective) Memory

The new X1650 PRO is a re-dressed X1600 XT with slightly higher clock speeds. These clock speeds and efficient shaders help the X1650 PRO compare well against the 12-pipeline 7600 GS.

Best AGP Card For ~$175

Geforce 7600 GT

Codename: G73, 90 nm technology
12 Pixel shaders, Five Vertex shaders, 12 Texture units, eight Raster operations processors
128 bit memory bus
560 MHz core, 700 MHz DDR (1400 MHz Effective) Memory

The 7600 GT is an amazing card in this price range, sporting new SM 3.0 technology and very high clock speeds to deliver excellent performance. Its weakest feature is its 128 bit memory bus, but its high memory speeds offset that disadvantage and make it competitive with 256 bit cards like the X800 XT/X850 XT. The 7600 GT is the AGP user's savior, a decently priced card that can actually perform well for the money.

Best AGP Card For +$200: None

And while it's safe to say that the best AGP card available for over $200 is the 7800 GS, it is very difficult to recommend it at a price point of over $240 because at stock clock speeds it performs similarly to the 7600 GT AGP, which costs much less.

With this in mind, if you have money to spend on an AGP card, you are much better off getting a PCI-express video card as well as a PCI-express motherboard for a few dollars more.

There are Intel Socket 478 and AMD Socket 740/939 PCI-express motherboards out there for those who wish to upgrade their current platform but want to keep their CPU and memory, although they can be hard to find.

The only real contemporary dead-end as far as upgrading motherboards is the AMD Socket A CPU, which has no PCI-express motherboard available... but even then it's worth a hard look at upgrading to a PCI-express system.

Honorable Mention:
Gainward Geforce 7800 GS+ silent 512
Codename: G71, 90 nm technology
24 Pixel shaders, eight Vertex shaders, 24 Texture units, 16 Raster operations processors
256 bit memory bus
450 MHz core, 660 MHz DDR (1000 MHz Effective) Memory

Gainward has the distinction of making the fastest AGP card on the planet. Their '7800 GS' is actually a '7900 GT', with 24 instead of 16 pipelines, 512 MB of RAM and the best AGP frame rates money can buy.

While it's still hard to recommend an AGP card this expensive while 7900 GTs are so cheap in the PCIe arena, if you absolutely HAVE to stay with your AGP system for another year or two, and your budget is unlimited, this is what you're looking for.On the downside, we've listed it for the sole purpose of showing AGP owners that the Holy Grail of AGP exists. Like the actual Holy Grail, it is very, VERY difficult to source in North America; you will probably have to look for it overseas in Europe.



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Posted - 03/15/2007 :  08:59:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
here is a list of AGP video cards, sorted by price.

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Woody
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Posted - 03/15/2007 :  09:52:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KC

here is a list of AGP video cards, sorted by price.




You call that a list, this is a list.

bigger list sorted by price.

Reality is for those that cant handle video games.
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Posted - 03/16/2007 :  08:02:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This would give your gaming a shot in the arm.
GECUBE GC-RX165GA2-E3R Radeon X1650PRO 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 8X Video Card
$139
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814241043

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