This site has two completly seperate Forums.
The Forum listed as MAIN on the menu is the Forum here that uses your Membership info.
The link labeled ORIGINAL is the original KC's Place forum.
It is also the most help filled 4x4 forum on the net.
It is rich with Track and Truck reviews created prior to the switch to this new site format in March of 2002.
It also contains posts dating back to Evo1 beta testing and many tips and tricks posted by TRI.
This forum runs on the karf.net server, not the vales.com server.
It is an independant entity and not directly controled by vales.com
It has it's own member list, login, and moderation.
The same rules apply there as the main forum
here on vales.com
When using that site, use the FRONT link on the logo to return to this sites structure.
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